Blank Choke 1.0

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BallZ, This deck looks amazing! I am going to try this out tomorrow! The explanation of the cards makes sense and the steps you lay out are exceptional. Thanks! Aaron

@Ro el penThanks! I'd love to hear how it performs for others and what adjustments could be made, it doesn't have a lot of reps yet.

Man, I have this deck built and I think our lists are only five or so cards different. I love this setup, man. It brings choke to a deck that can also put out a good amount of damage. I have a version of the deck with Dooku instead of Asajj for more survivability, but this is a much more streamlined, straight forward choke deck. Dooku/Quinlan is way more mill than anything.

This looks cool. I cannot wait to try this out this weekend!

@superabsurdi definitely considered slotting in The Dook just to beef up the staying power of the deck but I went with Asajj due to the way she discourages rerolls. Then Quinlan can be even more of a threat if your opponent does burn their hand down so either way you're giving your opponent a tough choice.

What are your thoughts on Sith Holocron instead of It Binds All Things? Free way to get out upgrades, which are all abilities, plus it has some focus and a modified resource.

@JackPoisoni initially had Sith Holocron and found that it was just a bit slow. Assuming i paid the 1 resource to roll in the new ability (which i always have so far) i ended up paying 1 to get the upgrades on anyways, and with all but 2 upgrade cards being 2 cost or less the total resource cost is about the same. Using It Binds All Things instead will let me play my upgrades whenever i want and without having to roll out.

@SwagonBallZ That makes perfect sense. Not using Holocron also saves you from rend if it is big in your meta.

any thoughts on adding force speed ancient sabers or shoto sabers to the deck? they just seem like very good cards.

@BergerFett force speed would be something to consider, but I'm not sure about slotting in sabers. I'd have a hard time figuring out what to pull out to fit in just the force speed, card slots are getting pretty tight nowadays.

Force speed is good but vulnerable to Rend. I think you want to be somewhat slow so that your opponent has time to consider the re roll and being forced to discard two cards. That would allow Quinlan Vos' special to be more reliable.

I love this idea. I had started working on it but you're way ahead of me. I do like Clash, but I'll admit that both that and Deflect depend on the meta. I can't see skipping Isolation, though, especially with Poe being a concern. Also, Ancient Lightsaber would help with both damage output and survival. How have Force Strike and Lightsaber Throw worked out for you? Do you need a ton of damage out of hand? I for one would just play more weapons, though I should try it your way first.

@Ed CoteThe core idea was to include as little actual removal as possible, i want the opponents dice to stay out and show blanks so i can blow them out with Cornered Prey and It Will Be All Mine. Feel Your Anger is there as a panic button if there are too many dice to control, if they have a single blank out then u get the same value as you would with Isolation, but more often there will be more than one blank out to take advantage of. It might be a meta call further down the line to include isolation in addition to feel your anger. Force Strike is there to help squeeze use out of the dice i sacrifice with Manipulate (and unlucky rolls, they're bounds to happen) and Lightsaber Throw is there just to get more value out of your character damage dice since I'm not running weapons. You could probably get away with swapping both with those two lightsabers specifically, but i just prefer damage out of hand as it tends to be more economical and consistent in the short term. In my (limited) experience so far they've done great work but I've also not tried it with sabers instead so who knows.

Very cool idea. Probably takes some skill to get right I reckon as blanking in general is weaker than removal. Yet when calibrated right it must be very scary to meet.

fair on the force speed and sabers. im not entirely sure what i would swap out either. im missing 2 assajj and one it will all be mine. i should be able to trade for them this weekend so i may try the deck out for a few weeks. ive been struggling to find a villian deck i really want.

thanks for the post and the feedback

@Ed Cote I think one of the biggest advantages of damage from hand is that it doesn't require an upfront investment. You have to play that upgrade out first to get value from it. You can keep options in hand with events though, and play them only if you don't need to pay for other things more. That makes them more powerful in flexibility while upgrades are more powerful in accumulating damage. I expect this deck values that flexibility because it has a ton of situational plays and is very reactive.

@Foz That's a good point. I do recall times when I played a weapon right off the bat then wasn't able to play removal later in the round.

I love Ventress. I want build a deck with Vos, but... I'm afraid that against the aggressive and fast deck that you can not dispute the damage resolution (Cad Bane, Sabine, Poe Maz, Rey Han), do not have time to get enough benefits.

although it hasn't been a huge part of the meta yet, facing a deck heavy on looking at your hand and discarding your events could be be pretty disastrous

I can confirm decks with heavy discarding shut this down fast.

Thanks all for the feedback. I've found a couple other weaknesses/issues that will (hopefully) be addressed in the next version. This deck is far from being finished!

I'm not a good player so take this with a grain of salt.

I can't get this deck to run. It's just too slow. Aggro decks murder Asajj by turn 2 or 3 then Vos dies turn 4 or 5. Turning 1-2 dice to blanks on turns 1 and 2 just doesn't mitigate enough. Not sure if my draws are just bad or what but I am getting face rolled.

What about putting Swiftness in? Would the ambush factor help with getting more damage out quickly?

So i'm not sure if I'm playing this wrong or maybe my opponents just keep getting lucky on me, but I feel like this needs more cards to force rerolls or try for my blanks does it not? Unless I'm just playing this deck poorly

I put in 1 Boundless Ambition to make Quinlan a monster.

I've built my own. It's pretty much the same, with slight differences due to availability of certain cards. I replaced both Your Skills Are CompleteX2 and It Binds All ThingsX2 because they weren't available to me. I replaced them with Mind TrickX2 and Boundless AmbitionX2. Waiting for some of the cards to arrive in the mail, currently.

I also will be using Emperor's Throne Room - Death Star II and Medical Center - Kaliida Shoals interchangeably, depending upon who I'm playing.